Fediverse Foundation - let's get serious!

Great post @paula! Yes, a process is needed. I have used similar approaches in companies I worked for, though not in grassroots communities where I expect it will be harder to rigorously stick to it.

I feel that we should roughly follow such or a similar approach, but also should take into account that at this early outset everyone is brainstorming and we want to listen to all voices, get the best ideas. So that means sorta that while we go down the pyramid to more concrete levels, we can all place our “sticky notes” to whatever level it belongs to, and that stuff we consider later on, once we get there, to elaborate and decide if / how they fit.

Note that this forum and matrix too are poorly suited to brainstorming. Maybe we can create a Mural (or use similar tool), that is divided into sections like above pyramid, and we can all draw our sticky notes to them. Then once we feel that we are sufficiently done with that we can organize a vidcall workshop to shift and filter, and refine?


Wow, this is a really cool effort.
I don’t think I have a lot of time to help, but I’ll for sure follow the process. :slight_smile:


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Here it is:


Please everybody try to use a color that hasn’t been used yet for your sticky notes, so we know who wrote what.


Thanks for opening the discussion. I have made some contributions.

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I’m reading through the mural posts. Pretty cool. Regarding the Mission note on legal advice for small organizations, maybe something could be done in conjunction with EFF. They already do something like that. Also, for the Strategy note about local events, maybe something could be done in cooperation with other groups that run events such as the Software Freedom Day group. Both groups could benefit from combining resources and they already have a yearly world-wide event with local groups that participate.

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I do not consider values to be the pointy end. In my opinion, they are the foundation.

Speaking of values, I’ll pass on Mural.


Yes, sure, the pyramid could be the other way around, or it could be a different form entirely.

Do you have another suggestion for a similar tool?

Wiki post for listing FOSS whiteboard alternatives

This is a wiki post that anyone can edit…

I did look for a good FOSS alternative after we found out about that signup requirement. But didn’t find something similar, online canvas-like with just sticky notes. Was sure I’ve seen something in the past. Really love to see strong open alternatives in this space, and tooted about it a couple times. I may look around a bit more today using AlternativeTo and some other places, if I have time.

(In the meantime I signed up and added some stickies myself.)

Note: I tooted, asking for alternatives and will mention suggestions below in this post. I also asked a friend if they may temp host our Mural on their subscription plan, that comes with Guest access.

FOSS alternatives

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The ToriOS project was using this site for brainstorming:
Looks like there’s a Kanban option at that site as well as some others. They were just using a sheet to share ideas. I’ve seen some of the agile groups in my area use Kanban for brainstorming.

Ah yes, I tried the whiteboard, which is not suitable. The Kanban might be used, but it is not ideal.

Just a short notice from on the road, briefly browsing the thread after being pointed here on Mastodon. Great project, utterly important. Ready and willing to support im any way possible.
Best regards,


Welcome Kristian! Nice to see ya here :smiley:

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Thanks. Good to see this gaining speed, thanks for pointing me here.:slightly_smiling_face:

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Yes I set that account up for them as i was part of ToriOS, it kinda went quiet as life got i n the way for people but kanban is really functional for planning etc, plus we can have groups on there so collaborate on pads for written text we need to get right,

Further to this, if you would like me to set up a Team on Cryptpad.fr I am happy do do so then post a link to here for people to invite people to the group.

FEI (for everyone’s information): Here’s what’s currently brainstormed in the Mural (zooming required to read :slight_smile: )…


Okay, i have to admit, i have absolutely no idea how to understand most of the labels on Mural, and it seems to me like its a nice tool for getting the general idea and brainstorming, to make some actual progress we should also have a more structured discussion about details.
My idea is to divide it into Whats - the things we would like the foundation to do, the Why’s - our manifesto, our ideals, and everything that makes us want to do it, and the Hows - specific things that can/should be done, you know, because of why’s and to achieve what’s :wink:
To test this I made a proof-of-concept meta topic for what’s:

What do you think?

So, who is still in?
I feel like we all kinda forgot about this.
And does anybody have an idea how we should go about this? Seems our past methods didn’t really work out.

I am open to explore all roads that lead to a stronger Fediverse. My advocacy is aimed to fedi reaching its full potential, and personal vision one of having a Peopleverse, which might be a shared (technology/social) vision, where our online social world is a true extension of our IRL social fabric. But I am focused on more technical aspects, where fedi is weakest and an ‘Achilles Heel’ exists.

Various forms of foundation can be laid. ‘Simplest’ being an informal community, and an OpenCollective (or similar) to collect some money and deal out some compensation for people doing stuff that otherwise won’t be done (e.g. via a Bounty system, or something). But when it comes to more thorough structures and forms of organization you quickly get to the point where this needs some people in a full-time engagement, and then it gets all-serious and also complex.

I would not mind taking the long road to preparing this, which I was planning for with Federated Diversity Foundation, and now with Social Coding (still just in prep), of which fedi foundation is now part. I started Discuss Social Coding, a co-shared community, with a sub about Foundations of the Fediverse, where I observed that the technology adoption lifecycle is broken. This builds further on the Fediverse Saga posted here before.